ohhoe
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Post by ohhoe on Oct 10, 2013 20:29:24 GMT
I'm sorry. I gtfo of florida as soon as I graduated High School. Are you north or south of it? South. I'm with you on that. I moved up to Atlanta for a while, but a buddy of mine created a card game and wanted me to move back to Daytona to help out with it, soooo here I am. ughhhh Daytona. I'm from Volusia County. I went to High School in Deltona and DeLand.
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ohhoe
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Post by ohhoe on Oct 10, 2013 20:31:00 GMT
Okay, new mini theory. I know Peter Pan was kind of nixed but here is what I thought of. In Barrie's writing he mentions that Neverland is by the milkyway, and in the Disney version Pan says "second star to the right, and and straight on til morning." So to the right of the Milkyway is the Pleiades, a circular constellation of seven sisters. What's more is, the sister Electra is considered to be a lost pleiad because she disappeared in grief over the destruction of Troy.... Also the seven sister's father is Atlas, which in ancient times meant struggle, bear, lift, or carry, but could also relate to a directional Atlas (he was the one forced to carry the world). That is all I have, and I can't really get it past "mind her corner and through that hole go," but the first part seemed to fit pretty well. the lost Pleiade is Merope in lore because she's the dimmest. We already explored the pleiades as an option. :/
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Post by mapledidit on Oct 11, 2013 0:52:59 GMT
Did anyone ever go to Powell St. & Market and look for the words in stone like milksteak suggested? I'm trying to catch up on all this...
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Post by milksteak on Oct 11, 2013 1:24:39 GMT
Okay, new mini theory. I know Peter Pan was kind of nixed but here is what I thought of. In Barrie's writing he mentions that Neverland is by the milkyway, and in the Disney version Pan says "second star to the right, and and straight on til morning." So to the right of the Milkyway is the Pleiades, a circular constellation of seven sisters. What's more is, the sister Electra is considered to be a lost pleiad because she disappeared in grief over the destruction of Troy.... Also the seven sister's father is Atlas, which in ancient times meant struggle, bear, lift, or carry, but could also relate to a directional Atlas (he was the one forced to carry the world). That is all I have, and I can't really get it past "mind her corner and through that hole go," but the first part seemed to fit pretty well. the lost Pleiade is Merope in lore because she's the dimmest. We already explored the pleiades as an option. :/ Merope is lost in some lore, but there are also examples of Electra too, haha I didn't just pick a random name from a hat. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electra_(Pleiad)) And did we explore it a day other than today? Because today when it was brought up, conversation kind of got distracted by talk of a cat. It definitely has not been explored as much as PDL or Simone. I was just wondering other people's thoughts. I thought cherrybomb's association with the coin was pretty clever.
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ohhoe
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Post by ohhoe on Oct 11, 2013 15:08:47 GMT
the lost Pleiade is Merope in lore because she's the dimmest. We already explored the pleiades as an option. :/ Merope is lost in some lore, but there are also examples of Electra too, haha I didn't just pick a random name from a hat. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electra_(Pleiad)) And did we explore it a day other than today? Because today when it was brought up, conversation kind of got distracted by talk of a cat. It definitely has not been explored as much as PDL or Simone. I was just wondering other people's thoughts. I thought cherrybomb's association with the coin was pretty clever. Yeah, enaxor brought it up and I don't know about everyone else but I looked into constellations / mythology pretty deep. I think because there are too many variations based on greek or roman or scandanavian or chinese, etc etc, it's too confusing to consider an option. This is just my opinion though and I'm a grumpy jerk, so you can feel free to go down any path you want. haha.
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Post by chewbrocca on Oct 11, 2013 22:30:53 GMT
What if it's a lock? This might be where the keys come in.
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Post by silentorchid on Oct 13, 2013 16:26:37 GMT
Wait, did you figure out the first line? I just saw the post that we're trying to "find the lost girl" now. How did we get here?
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ohhoe
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Post by ohhoe on Oct 14, 2013 18:39:56 GMT
Wait, did you figure out the first line? I just saw the post that we're trying to "find the lost girl" now. How did we get here? It's Ponce de Leon hotel in St. augustine fl. the ceiling has maidens in a circle that depict the elements.
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summersumz
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following the girl....
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Post by summersumz on Oct 14, 2013 20:52:26 GMT
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Post by chewbrocca on Oct 14, 2013 23:29:48 GMT
Snap! Has anyone gone there yet? I can see about heading up there tomorrow
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Post by tymethief on Oct 14, 2013 23:57:06 GMT
Don't need to go there physically, just need to figure out the next set of directions
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Post by chewbrocca on Oct 15, 2013 0:55:42 GMT
Wouldn't hurt. I'm heading up north Thursday, I could see about swinging in for a tour to ask some questions if we haven't figured anything out by then.
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summersumz
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Post by summersumz on Oct 15, 2013 3:38:18 GMT
No one needs to go to the hotel, unless to satisfy their own tourist impulses. We're past this part of the puzzle now. Following the girl north.
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Post by passcrow on Oct 15, 2013 6:36:26 GMT
George Maynard, the artist of the hotel paintings recreated those paintings in the Thomas Jefferson Building of the LOC. So Maynard could be the 'father' and he took 'her', one of the women he painted (Earth, Air, Fire, Water, Adventure, Conquest, Discovery, Civilization) north to DC...
But then again, I have no idea what is going on. I just stumbled upon this entire thing and haven't been in on any of the discussions you guys have had...
So, just a though, basically...
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Post by exicice on Oct 15, 2013 11:05:28 GMT
"Mr. Maynard's Paintings. — The paintings in the tympanums and the disc are the work of Mr. George W, Maynard, whose panels in the Main Entrance Hall have already been described. In the tympanums the sequence of Mr. Maynard's subjects begins on the east side and continues to the right, as follows : Adventure, Discovery, Conquest, Civiliiation — the bold roving spirit of Adventure leading to Discovery," -i know we're already at the LoC by making maynard the "father," but could the "father" also be adventure, which brought forth discovery? "In the first tympanum, Adventure, seated on her throne, holds in her right hand a drawn sword, in instant readiness for the combat ; her left hand rests upon an upright caduceus, the emblem of Mercury"... "On the Spanish side of the decoration is the following list of names of Spanish adventurers : Diaz, Narvaez, Coello, Cabeza, Verrazano, Bas-tidas. On the other side is the English list : Drake, Cavendish, Raleigh, Smith, Frobisher, Gilbert." - first name follows? is the first name listed the name we "must know"? on the panel, "drake" starts the list if you read left-to-right picture: myloc.gov/ExhibitSpaces/SWPavilion/Adventure/Pages/default.aspx?Enlarge=true&ImageId=40580b8d-8849-4d94-b038-73ef52ed18eb%3a1e6a817e-c5b7-42e3-a23c-f22776eaaf36%3a1&PersistentId=2%3a40580b8d-8849-4d94-b038-73ef52ed18eb&ReturnUrl=%2fExhibitSpaces%2fSWPavilion%2fAdventureor, to stick with discovery instead of adventure, here's her list: "Lists of names occur at the left and right, surmounted, as before, with the naval crown. The first list is : Solis, Orellana, Van Horn, Oieda, Columbus, Pinzon; the second, Cabot, Magellan, Hudson, Behring, Vespucius, Balboa." picture: myloc.gov/ExhibitSpaces/SWPavilion/Discovery/Pages/default.aspx?Enlarge=true&ImageId=f377f36f-5a0b-4d4b-9a9f-dd4e8bc9a66d%3a12cd0370-c669-4089-9789-264b88806ae4%3a1&PersistentId=2%3af377f36f-5a0b-4d4b-9a9f-dd4e8bc9a66d&ReturnUrl=%2fExhibitSpaces%2fSWPavilion%2fDiscoveryquote sources: books.google.com/books?id=KWwTAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=tympanums+library+of+congress+adventure+discovery&source=bl&ots=LSCbJJvdUi&sig=2g3mxm_sWytbo6Zk-_TOlO-97RU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dhhdUoCgGKn4iwLv-YHACA&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=tympanums%20library%20of%20congress%20adventure%20discovery&f=falsepage 89 (bottom) mr. maynard's paintings - page 91 and archive.org/stream/handbooknewlibr00smalgoog/handbooknewlibr00smalgoog_djvu.txt and from another source, which has been linked before: In this sequence, Adventure leads to Discovery, which in turn results in Conquest, and finally Civilization." myloc.gov/ExhibitSpaces/SWPavilion/Pages/default.aspxbut, the hole! where's the hole!? i'm not sure, still. some of the other paintings/art are circular, but not this particular one. and i know we have other ideas going for our hole. stick whatever you want out of this into the doc - not sure what parts of it will be useful and don't want a ton of repeats. oh, and i've also been looking for things named "adventure" closer to the north of our PdL, and my best hit was a fun center place called "adventure landing" - there are "holes" in their mini golf course. ? (and a "adrenaline alligator adventure" if anyone by chance wants to visit that place and go find a corner to poke around in some holes, but i wouldn't recommend it.) also, i agree it's not a bad idea, even if it might not be necessary, for someone ( chewbrocca) to stop in to the actual building if it's not too out of the way (and, if it's even open)... couldn't hurt!
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