cherrybomb
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Post by cherrybomb on Sept 19, 2013 4:06:39 GMT
I'm just wondering if that means the path goes from top to bottom or from bottom to top.
Any thoughts?
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Post by subjectoftowels on Sept 19, 2013 20:33:23 GMT
I would assume top to bottom, personally, but I have no reason for that assumption beyond the fact that we read from the top to the bottom of a page (so when reading the note, you go from top to bottom) and the same for a column of text or numbers.
I know other people on Tumblr have mentioned this, but is it possible the note somehow applies to the Bible pages (which each have two columns of text on them, I believe)? I don't know how to work in the numbers in the "Path" note, because I just checked the verses on my Bible page (kit A163) and none fit the numbers given in the note. (I am just getting more involved in this, so I may be trying things people already tried and discarded.)
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vera
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Post by vera on Sept 19, 2013 21:55:35 GMT
Hello! I just discovered FtS and I had a theory about this puzzle, thought that I would share. I think that the Bible pages might be a clue to this puzzle. If you look at the columns and the numbers it could be referencing specific verses. I feel like with such a limited number of pages out there, each section of the puzzle probably represents one page that someone out there has. For example in the first part we need a page with a verse 18 close to the top on the left and a verse one midway down the right column. "the sun/moon/etc" might be a hint as to what pages to look at, or some overarching theme of the puzzle. For example: A player named sblaufuss received a package with a page which you can see here: sblaufuss.tumblr.com/post/58958441622/as-requested-i-assume-you-wanted-a-picture-of-the The Bible page he received could possibly fulfill "the earth" part of the puzzle. Based on the layout of his page for Job 15 & 16. Job 15:12: Why doth thine heart carry thee away and do thine eyes wink at (Circled)Job 16:18: Oh earth, cover not thou blood and let my cry have no place. The picture he received looks like a couple digging something up or burying something. EDIT: Totally missed that subjectoftowels mentioned this same theory in the post above me...I am the worst! Attachments:
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Post by enaxor on Sept 20, 2013 16:46:09 GMT
I've created another Google document listing all the Bible pages received so far. I've marked the numbers in red that M used in his puzzle. Hopefully I've included everything. I'll try to update it as soon as others are received. *eta Interesting to note that only "18" books have been sent out so far. **eta The 18th book from our list is Song of Solomon, which happens to include Chapter One. It does mention "the sun" in that chapter.
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Post by cvxn on Sept 21, 2013 21:31:20 GMT
So who has a page from the 18th book (Song of Solomon) that has something with a 1 on the second page or column? Perhaps we can start there, apply the medallion (especially if it lines up with any dots or italicized letters in the margin and see if we get any words or letters. Based on the number of things circled in M's message, we are looking for a 9 letter word or phrase, (or, if numeric, perhaps map coordinates). I'm still confused as to whether the first number will be a reference to Book, Chapter, Verse or Line, or whether it's the invocations of sun, moon, air and sign of the times are the markers of which Books we are to use. I guess we just try everything until something works?
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Post by subjectoftowels on Sept 21, 2013 22:24:40 GMT
So I've been looking into this with my Bible page (2 Samuel 3–5). I've read the page front and back and couldn't find any references to sun, moon or earth, or anything specific about the/a sign of the times. Essentially the chapters I have are about how David becomes King of Israel.
2 Samuel is the 8th book on Enaxor's spreadsheet. There is a verse 8 and verse 14 in one column (corresponding to the last two columns on M's note) for Chapter 3, but that leaves only one verse 18 in the second column. I don't know if the other two 18s are meant to be lines or words in a line or what.
I also have a verse 3 and verse 16 in the same column (corresponding to the second-to-last pattern of numbers on the note), again in Chapter 3, but no verse 16 in the second column of that page. Chapters 4 and 5 on the opposite page don't seem to have any verse numbers corresponding to M's note.
I've tried aligning the medallion with various combinations of these numbers and nothing seems to lead anywhere (yet).
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Post by jedpeter on Sept 22, 2013 0:06:28 GMT
When I looked at this, I thought that the two columns were like the columns on each page. So for the first one, we'd be looking for a page, for instance, that has verse 18 near the top of the left column and a verse 1 near the bottom of the right. Something is significant with that verse 1 - maybe a marked word or letter.
This seemed to be even more the case with the 4th page as it's the first to break the pattern of only two numbers, one in each column. It has a second 16 on the same page, same column as the first number. So I thought that in order to avoid confusion, M had noted that there were two verse 16's but only the second one was significant.
But then the fifth one doesn't make as much sense with three 18's in the right column. Unless there is a page with 3 things marked (or circled) in verse 18.
It may lead nowhere. It was just my first impression. Since we're trying to share everything it may spark something for someone else anyway...
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vera
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Post by vera on Sept 22, 2013 1:01:29 GMT
The last set of columns might not be a page. Its much longer than the others. In every other instance the verses could theoretically fit on the page in the configuration shown, but the the last one it's just not possible (unless each verse was one word or something ridiculous). I think the key thing is to get everyone to upload clear versions of their pages so we can see which, if any, fulfill the sun, moon, and sign of the times columns. Unless another page even more blatantly looks like the earth columns, I am pretty happy with the Job page I posted above. I think that when it comes down to we'll be able to tell which page goes where. I agree that the circled verses are probably most important, I think the first one is to narrow down which pages fulfill that configuration. In order to point us to the relevant verses. I think it would also be good to take stock of the other items that were in the kits with the pages we ultimately choose. For example it would be quite a task to use EVERY key sent out for something...but using just the 4 or 5 keys would be totally reasonable. ETA: Does this look like the moon and the signs of the times configurations to anyone else? Attachments:
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vera
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Post by vera on Sept 23, 2013 19:44:01 GMT
Stay on the path... Seems related to this puzzle. But what does it mean? Are we getting sidetracked and need a reminder to focus? Is M "available" for feedback? Would he answer if I sent him my Bible page theory? Or does he prefer to remain behind the curtain? Attachments:
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Post by cvxn on Sept 23, 2013 21:15:36 GMT
Try asking him a direct question or two. What could it hurt?
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Post by mapledidit on Sept 24, 2013 1:43:47 GMT
I think my bible page looks similar to "the moon" on M's clue. There is a high res photo on mapledidit.tumblr.com. I typed out what it says on tumblr too, in case you can't make it out in the photo.
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vera
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Post by vera on Sept 24, 2013 22:20:11 GMT
Thats a much better moon!
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Post by happyphantom on Sept 25, 2013 0:10:22 GMT
Well I finally got around to scanning my bible page- it's from Psalms. Here's a link to the picture.
I don't see any markings, and to me it does not resemble any of the panels in M's path. This page was inserted into kit #A074, which was purchased through Etsy, and there is no letter written in the lining of the tin. Again, this makes me think we need to focus on the items acquired through Kickstarter in more detail rather than those bought through Etsy.
What about the Bible pages that were attached with the original wooden kits? Has anyone uploaded any pics of those yet?
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gwehydd
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Post by gwehydd on Sept 25, 2013 18:33:14 GMT
I have a page that seems to match The Moon, but no idea what the significance is...
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Post by endercowz on Sept 25, 2013 21:43:12 GMT
maybe it has something to do with the times of the post names (The signs of time) In correlation to sun position/moon phases. Just a guess
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