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Post by cvxn on Feb 15, 2014 21:26:13 GMT
We are officially moved on to the sixth line of the poem, "Her first name follows news you must know". Points of discussion here: 1. Is it being assumed we already know her first name (is it Discovery?) or is that still something that must be found out for this line to progress? Is knowing her second name going to assist us or do we already know that? 2. a) What exactly is the "news you must know" referring to? b) Is there meant to be an implied comma after news? This would change the line reading significantly (one way it means "the fact that her name follows news is a fact you must know," and on the other "her name immediately follows some specific [news] which you must figure out") c) Are the compass directions NEWS? ( enaxor has suggested that maybe her first name is Rose, as in compass rose) 3. Is this line telling us to DO anything specific, other than "get your medallions ready"? I have believed for a long time that there is no action to be taken here, and that the line is just meant to alert us that we are now in medallion/compass mode. If that's the case, it will be a swift move to Line 7, but let's make sure we agree. As with the holes post, I will add further points of discussion and links to this master list as we address them in chat or as they are posted here.
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Post by subjectoftowels on Feb 15, 2014 21:35:20 GMT
I am one of the people who is assuming "Discovery" as the first name, so whatever the solution to the line will be is: _______ Discovery (where the blank line is the missing bit of information we need find).
I'm basically repeating myself here and in the chat now, but: my only problem with "Rose" is that the compass has to be the front of the medallion for that hole to be in the southwest. So if we then pass THROUGH the hole, we end up on the back side of the medallion (the side with the hat).
That's how I've been getting to the idea of "1876 Discovery", but that hasn't been leading me anywhere substantial yet.
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Post by cvxn on Feb 16, 2014 1:13:07 GMT
I am now sold on "1876 Discovery" being the meaning of this line.
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Post by enaxor on Feb 16, 2014 20:49:13 GMT
I keep going back and forth on the meaning of this line. First name could imply there's a second or last name. If "discovery" is part of the solution, then "dis" would/could be her first name. I've looked into the name America, as in the United States of America. United States being news we must know and America is the feminine form of Americus. Or the first name could be Columbia, which is what America was "first" called. I'm soooooo confused.
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Post by cornchak on Feb 17, 2014 0:02:58 GMT
I will offer a few other interpretations of the line:
Her first name follows: news you must know Her first name follows: news, you must know
Though I will admit that this punctuation-based fiddling doesn't feel quite right.
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Post by exicice on Feb 19, 2014 9:01:55 GMT
okay, more interpretations for the line here. i keep wanting to take the preceding and proceeding lines into consideration.
1...through that hole go, her first name follows (though that hole) - then i'm not sure about comma or colon or no comma or whatever before "news you must know"
also, and please bear with me (even if they're not on trains in november) for the punctuation on this - just trying to show the idea:
2...news, you must know, that marked with an eleventh breath, tells a tale." as in: the news is marked with an eleventh breath, and the news tells a tale. and you either should, or already do, know this.
i'm not saying that the lines are connected like that, because i realize it's pretty sloppy and fiddly, but i can't help but wonder if they might be. is a "first" name (however we interpret "first") following us through the hole we went through? or do i just stick with a simple two-word goal (______ discovery) as a solution of this entire line?
what do you get when you mix a joke with a rhetorical question?
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Post by enaxor on Feb 19, 2014 19:50:59 GMT
Still no clue how we're to read that line, but I did find what was probably a small village/town/community and now just a cemetery in Indiana called, "New Discovery". Although this is probably just another wild goose chase, perhaps it's worth checking out.
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Post by Kaylen Aldanae on Feb 19, 2014 21:53:28 GMT
I'm still banking on her first name being Discovery until something/someone says otherwise. It just doesn't make sense to have us follow Discovery all this time and then suddenly change her name.
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Post by elizabethplaid on Feb 19, 2014 22:16:59 GMT
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Post by exicice on Feb 20, 2014 0:10:48 GMT
Kaylen Aldanae, i don't think there is any debate about "discovery" being a name. discovery is definitely the "her" referred to there. i think the issue is "discovery's first name follows news you must know" may not be just "discovery follows" ya know? like, if i'm referring to you, and i say "her middle name is really pretty" it could still mean "kaylen's middle name, which is AwesomePants, is really pretty" and not just "kaylen's name is really pretty" (though it's true!)
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Post by Kaylen Aldanae on Feb 20, 2014 2:59:54 GMT
That makes sense. Still, Discovery is the only name we have. Unless something specifically calls out "Discovery's first name!" then there's nothing else to go off of.
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Post by ohhoe on Feb 20, 2014 4:56:15 GMT
Were we going anywhere with the 'Dakota' reference in the song? If so it could be 'Dakota Discovery' of 1876 which is the gold rush that other people referenced.
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