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Post by enaxor on Sept 30, 2013 21:17:39 GMT
After double checking the numbers ohhoe transcribed I found only a couple that were off. Here's a corrected version and I divided it by page. Hopefully someone will take a look to double check these.
Bring to the light those who hold each other dear To find the key to what follows here: 22 221 55 330 41 410 75 183 176 54 106 98 227 62 343 260 117 296 335 271 328 173 269 44 422 386 198 226 154 266 75 314 214 400 22 91 42 311
102 400 97 124 20 264 253 142 39 222 202 301 303 213 162 254 77 84 210 58 205 226 362 91 194 176 22 77 222 158 266 59 166 247 314 155 42 4 277 430 279 219 222 97 173 70 309 323 103 266 202 307 87 271 293 341 335 171 211 68 13 14 201 370 72 83 111 176 73
62 72 44 31 410 6 17 111 22 14 84 145 28 17 97 247 216 82 72 80 36 77 19 149 28 201 410 101 201 77 48 320 420 421 422 350 335 377 211 120 42 407 2 13 73 12 195 211 152 202 237 211 335 14 111 95 4 111 314 154 77 1 85 14 97 101 417 427 101 103 217 10 14 103
381 100 396 9 80 102 314 361 290 10 119 103 12 13 1 154 80 220 111 255 44 222 322 4 154 38 154 149 44 96 132 110 241 75 77 2 72 107 307 75 1 2 244 162 317 417 71 24 41 2 90 71 14 35 13 110 111 300 25 13 14 361 111 1 22 77 12 311 323 255 243 72 14 21 51
221 4 21 2 13 148 14 115 144 16 95 2 72 88 2 277 1 22 106 15 239 75 257 32 211 34 42 300 37 2 13 14 229 44 309 211 101 290 140 114 2 220 62 82 244 44 15 33 175 11 21 61 14 82 159 115 314 12 16 221 14 171 72 14 11 101 119 201 15 4 417 427 311 214 14 141 82
13 44 341 72 4 131 144 62 13 142 2 4 314 303 13 211 15 77 When they show you the path, remember how it goes.
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Post by cvxn on Sept 30, 2013 22:27:32 GMT
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Post by cornchak on Oct 1, 2013 0:26:18 GMT
I have individually asked each photograph recipient who is listed in the spreadsheet if they could try running a black light across their photos. So far, none of them have access to one, but several have said they will try to get their hands on one.
I also sent M my thoughts about it, and asked if I should urge them to acquire a black light.
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Post by whatsupmakelove on Oct 1, 2013 1:48:05 GMT
Well, even though we've lost one clue because we went past the water instead of heeding the signs, I think it might still be useful to go into minecraft itself. I was not a part of the original business with finding the specific minecraft world. Is there any way that being in that minecraft world will help us at all with these numbers?
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lolerzz
Starlighter Recruit
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Post by lolerzz on Oct 1, 2013 6:10:51 GMT
This is a lie, there was no such clue inside water walls. I've checked it.
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Post by jedpeter on Oct 1, 2013 6:22:26 GMT
M left a signed book for Kaylen that said something to the effect of "The only thing left here is what you make of it. I like what you've done with the place. Recently. -M" So further exploration is...well, up to you to get what you want from it. It doesn't seem that we'll get what M wanted us to get. We went to where the pictures of the burning tree indicated, the chest was gone.
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Post by jedpeter on Oct 1, 2013 6:24:46 GMT
lolerzz, I trust that you can make definitive statements about what existed in the past. I know you can. did you look about 3 blocks under surface near the western wall right around where the snow started? I think think the coords were about -167 157 or so. That's totally off of memory. I don't want to log back in right now. So tired.
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Post by cvxn on Oct 1, 2013 6:42:45 GMT
I posted this in the new poll thread I started, but I didn't want anyone to miss it.
My new theory: "those who hold each other dear" are COUPLES.
So perhaps we are only to look at double-digit numbers in the Minecraft book and ignore anything below 10 or above 99??
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Post by exicice on Oct 1, 2013 7:53:54 GMT
After double checking the numbers ohhoe transcribed I found only a couple that were off. Here's a corrected version and I divided it by page. Hopefully someone will take a look to double check these. Bring to the light those who hold each other dear To find the key to what follows here: 22 221 55 330 41 410 75 183 176 54 106 98 227 62 343 260 117 296 335 271 328 173 269 44 422 386 198 226 154 266 75 314 214 400 22 91 42 311
102 400 97 124 20 264 253 142 39 222 202 301 303 213 162 254 77 84 210 58 205 226 362 91 194 176 22 77 222 158 266 59 166 247 314 155 42 4 277 430 279 219 222 97 173 70 309 323 103 266 202 307 87 271 293 341 335 171 211 68 13 14 201 370 72 83 111 176 73
62 72 44 31 410 6 17 111 22 14 84 145 28 17 97 247 216 82 72 80 36 77 19 149 28 201 410 101 201 77 48 320 420 421 422 350 335 377 211 120 42 407 2 13 73 12 195 211 152 202 237 211 335 14 111 95 4 111 314 154 77 1 85 14 97 101 417 427 101 103 217 10 14 103
381 100 396 9 80 102 314 361 290 10 119 103 12 13 1 154 80 220 111 255 44 222 322 4 154 38 154 149 44 96 132 110 241 75 77 2 72 107 307 75 1 2 244 162 317 417 71 24 41 2 90 71 14 35 13 110 111 300 25 13 14 361 111 1 22 77 12 311 323 255 243 72 14 21 51
221 4 21 2 13 148 14 115 144 16 95 2 72 88 2 277 1 22 106 15 239 75 257 32 211 34 42 300 37 2 13 14 229 44 309 211 101 290 140 114 2 220 62 82 244 44 15 33 175 11 21 61 14 82 159 115 314 12 16 221 14 171 72 14 11 101 119 201 15 4 417 427 311 214 14 141 82
13 44 341 72 4 131 144 62 13 142 2 4 314 303 13 211 15 77 When they show you the path, remember how it goes.
i gave this a lookielook with a third set of eyes, and see no discrepancies besides the possible underscore after 311_ at the end of the first page. i heard that might just be a glitch or something weird about the screenshot, but i have no idea.
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Post by cvxn on Oct 1, 2013 9:18:25 GMT
Here is the Minecraft book message as it appears on the 6 pages, but with only the double digit numbers showing ("those that hold each other dear"). This looks like something we can work with. The repeats are very encouraging, especially the 77.
22 55 41 75 54 98 62 44 75 22 91 42
97 20 39 77 84 58 91 22 77 59 42 97 70 87 68 13 14 72 83 73
62 72 44 31 17 22 14 84 28 17 97 82 72 80 36 77 19 28 77 48 42 13 73 12 14 95 77 85 14 97 10 14
80 10 12 13 80 44 38 44 96 75 77 72 75 71 24 41 90 71 14 35 13 25 13 14 22 77 12 72 14 21 51
21 13 14 16 95 72 88 22 15 75 32 34 42 37 13 14 44 62 82 44 15 33 11 21 61 14 82 12 16 14 72 14 11 15 14 82
13 44 72 62 13 13 15 77
My theory then is: a) either we're solving this smaller set of numbers as a cipher using one of the bible pages like many tried to do with the full set of numbers OR b) maybe to boil it down even further, our next step is to eliminate any number pair above that occurs just once and isn't repeated, and perhaps that will give us just enough numbers for another IP address ("remember how it goes").
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Post by Brel on Oct 1, 2013 9:34:49 GMT
Maybe it's using all of the pages, matching either page numbers or kit numbers.
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Post by cvxn on Oct 1, 2013 9:49:23 GMT
So far, I've found the most frequently repeating double digit numbers above are 14** (14 times) 13 (10 times) 77 (8 times) 72* (8 times) 44 (7 times) 22 (6 times) 75 (5 times) 97 (4 times) 15 (4 times) - still working on it and there may be errors, but my eyes grow dim at this late hour, and I may call it a night soon. EDIT: *Thx to exicice for catching this one I missed. (**And summersumz for the most frequent repeater I missed, #14)
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Post by cvxn on Oct 1, 2013 12:11:19 GMT
While I sleep, please enjoy this "Sassy Ramses" GIF set I posted on my Tumblr earlier, which represents the look on my face every time I think of an angle to work these puzzles... and it goes nowhere. Still, I'm hoping M responds to my ask by the time I wake up!
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Post by exicice on Oct 1, 2013 13:44:31 GMT
alright, i'm just gonna post this, even though i'm very hesitant about sending anyone down more rabbit holes (or any holes in general!). when cvxn first mentioned her idea to me in chat, i initially misunderstood and thought it was something else. though i like her idea, apparently i thought that keeping with the theme of 'utter chaos' was also a wise decision, and so created an alternative "number pair" list. this one is taking out everything that doesn't have a double of itself, regardless of the number of digits. a number with a sole other, identical number somewhere was left standing. singletons, triplets, and on were removed. here they are in order of appearance. if anyone wants the list in numerical order or by "page", i can post that. 41 106 271 173 422 226 214 400 91 102 400 142 303 162 84 226 91 247 277 173 309 323 307 271 341 171 73 17 84 28 17 247 149 28 422 73 95 427 10 102 361 290 10 119 220 255 149 110 307 244 162 71 41 71 110 300 361 323 255 115 144 16 95 277 106 300 309 290 220 244 11 115 16 171 11 119 427 214 341 144 142 303 here they are with their OWN doubles taken out, again in order of appearance (second occurrence of number removed) 41 106 271 173 422 226 214 400 91 102 142 303 162 84 247 277 309 323 307 341 171 73 17 28 149 95 427 10 361 290 119 220 255 110 244 71 300 115 144 16 11 that's 41 "pairs", doubled = 81 numbers left standing. (the rest i threw into a hole somewhere and shook a sugar cane at... *groan*) also of note (ignoring my little lists up there): -the HIGHEST number looks to be 430. this seems significant. -"pairs" could also be viewed as 321 - 123. -the "key" may not be found on these pages at all, yet needed from somewhere else to "decode" the pages. -the words "number" "digit" "page" et cetera are beginning to lose all logical meaning to me. -i hope this is easier for us than the last path.
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Post by Ampersandrea on Oct 1, 2013 16:03:14 GMT
My boyfriend says the numbers could be minecraft coordinates (each three sets is one coordinate, if you press F3 you get your coordinates on the screen) Not sure about it, it's pretty straightforward. Also just got into this puzzle so sorry if someone already said that x
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